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TWO WAKE UPS AND DOWN TO THREE


 Texas' D.J. Augustin, left, drives around Iowa Sta...
D J  Augustin Pure Point Guard
Is it him? Some say he's too small? We will find out!

 
Russell Westbrook. The Combo Guard?
Many say He's the one! His defense and upside will improve the Knicks?
We shall see.



Anthony Randolph..the 6'11 198 pounder?
Is this the pick the knicks will take?

What makes the Most sense to me is an Artticle I linked at the Knick Fix from Bleacher Report:

The New York Knicks have a major dilemma heading into the 2008 NBA Draft.

 

General Manager Donnie Walsh and Head Coach Mike D’Antoni actually inherit a roster that contains several usable pieces. However, they also inherit a number with two glaring needs: a legitimate two-way low-post presence and a point guard who can lead D’Antoni’s high-octane offense.

 

One of these needs is much more important than the other.

 

The Knicks need an on-court leader. They need someone who can stay calm and positive when the opposing team makes a run and play smart basketball. They also need someone who can mange the egos that will surround him as well as utilize his teammates’ strengths to turn a talented group of individuals into an effective unit.

 

That’s not usually what a low-post player does. It’s what a point guard does.

 

Thus, with the No. 6 pick in the draft, the Knicks should look for a point guard who can be the leader of this team for years to come.

 

But there’s one problem: The point guard crop in this year’s draft is slim.

 

Aside from Memphis standout Derrick Rose, who is a lock to become one of the top two picks, there is no true point guard who is universally considered a top ten challenge. It is likely that, on draft night, the Knicks will be forced to choose between a point guarded and a more highly-touted post player.

 

So what should they do? Below is my take on who the Knicks should and shouldn’t draft, looking at all the players who have been considered in the No. 6 slot and who actually have a chance of falling that far. Unfortunately for New York, the latter list is much longer than the former.

 

Who the Knicks shouldn’t draft

 

The one thing the Knicks most can’t afford is to draft a project. This isn’t exactly the right environment in which to teach a young player good habits, no matter the strength of the new managerial team. Plus, Anthony Randolph couldn’t even lead LSU to a respectable season last year. So he’s out.

 

NBA analysts have had a lot of positive things to say about Danilo Gallinari, who is supposed to have the ball-handling and shooting abilities to make him a fit in D’Antoni’s offense. But the Knicks really don’t need another wing, D’Antoni has said he didn’t like Ganillari much as a prospect, and Italian players don’t have a stellar recent history in the league. Ciao, Danilo.

 

I was thoroughly impressed by the offensive skills of Brook Lopez when I saw him in the NCAA Tournament against Marquette. But he commands the ball too much to be successful both given the make-up of the current New York team and given the quick pace of D’Antoni’s offense—he simply won’t have time to set up in the post.

 

Kevin Love would actually be a pretty good fit on a Mike D’Antoni team—his gritty nature, effective rebounding, and strong outlet passes are all crucial in running a fast break. But Love is the kind of player you want when other pieces, namely a point guard to lead the break, are already in piece. The Knicks also already have a similar player in fan favorite David Lee.

 

The Knicks need a point guard who can pass the ball. They really don’t need a point guard who looks to shoot all the time. So Eric Gordon would also be a terrible fit for this team.

 

Who the Knicks should draft

 

He isn’t likely to fall to them, but Jerryd Bayless should be the pick if he does. He is a combo guard who is more than capable of pushing the tempo, and has shown several flashes of being able to play as a true point guard.

 

At Arizona, Bayless had to balance providing for his teammates and taking over the game. In New York, with more talented players surrounding him, Bayless would be able to play primarily as a facilitator who also could score when needed. Beginning to sound like Steve Nash yet? A very, very poor man’s Steve Nash?

 

But the truth is Bayless is probably not going to be an option for the Knicks, as the Sonics are taking a long look at him with the No. 4 pick. Thus, New York needs to look deeper into the draft pool for their point guard of the future.

 

The next player who best fits the mold of a Mike D’Antoni point guard is D.J. Augustin of Texas. Augustin is a true point guard, comfortable pushing the ball and looking for his teammates, and a solid three-point shooter.

 

Augustin is by far the lowest-rated prospect I have yet discussed, as he is rarely projected to go higher in the draft than No. 11 to the Pacers. So the Knicks should look to trade down and try to get him at a better value. One possible trade partner is the Charlotte Bobcats, who are looking for a frontcourt player and could take their pick between whoever the Grizzlies haven’t already drafted of Love, Randolph, and Lopez.

 

But neither the Bucks nor the Clippers, the two teams who draft in between the Knicks and the Bobcats, are necessarily going to take a frontcourt player, as the Bucks are looking at Gallinari and the Clippers are eyeing Gordon.

 

So it’s very possible the Knicks won’t be able to find a trade partner that allows them to pick Augustin in front of the Pacers. So what do they do then? Do they take their lower-rated point guard anyway, or go for the more highly-touted post players?

 

I say take the point guard anyway. Augustin, while he may never be a star, fits well in D’Antoni’s offense and is a building block for the future. Throw the projections to the wind, and pick the player who works best for the team.

 

The Knicks have made many a mistake by opting for talent over how a player fits into the mold of the team.

 

They can’t afford to do that again during the 2008 Draft.

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23 Jun 2008. 08:58:18 pm




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Comments

Comment from: jay bee [ Member ]
Good stuff Admin. Augustin is looking more and more like our guy, but he probably won't start right away so I'm not waiting on him to save us.
   2008-06-24 @ 03:10:26 am
Comment from: Admin [ Member ]
@ JayBee,
If we do take Augustin...he will start right away!
It will also signal the end of the Marbury deprivation!!!( Applause!)
Augustin will be a main piece of building our own House
and then we can concenrate on that low post presence
and ways to improve in that area!
   2008-06-24 @ 05:35:03 am
Comment from: peaceman [ Member ]
Knicks Want To Draft Mayo To Lure LeBron?
Posted: 6/24/2008 3:25:00 AM
Source: New York Daily News

I like this Piece..just edit the Lebron part!


Donnie Walsh's long-range plan is to make a play for LeBron James when James becomes a free agent in two years. In the interim, the Knicks' president is trying to clear salary cap space and assemble a few pieces that would make New York more appealing to James.

One such player is USC guard O.J. Mayo, who could go as high as third in Thursday's draft. The Minnesota Timberwolves own the pick and the club is open to trading it. The Knicks, who select sixth, are looking to move up and are intrigued by Mayo, who like coach Mike D'Antoni hails from West Virginia. The fact that Mayo, regarded as the top combo guard in the draft, is good friends with James doesn't hurt. There was a report yesterday that the Knicks and Grizzlies were working on a deal that would send David Lee and Malik Rose to Memphis for the fifth overall pick plus the two years and $13 million remaining on Brian Cardinal's contract.

Having the fifth and sixth picks in the first round would improve the Knicks' chances of landing Mayo if he somehow falls past Minnesota and Seattle. If Mayo is gone, the Knicks will be in position to draft a point guard (Jerryd Bayless, D.J. Augustin, Russell Westbrook) plus another player.
   2008-06-24 @ 05:52:29 am
Comment from: peaceman [ Member ]
Had Thomas stayed in power, Marbury said he knows his contract would have been bought out after the season. In an interview with The Post yesterday, Marbury said his contract was nearly bought out in November amidst the Nov. 13 Phoenix fiasco, when Marbury left the Knicks reportedly because he wasn't going to start anymore.

According to Marbury, Thomas did not just want him out of the starting lineup for Mardy CollinsMardy Collins in November, Thomas wanted him out of the organization and sent him home to have his contract bought out. Marbury said he still doesn't know how things changed the next day, when summoned back to Los Angeles, the talk of a buyout history.

Ok Bermey..take Marbury's thing out of your mouth!
MARBURY= DEADMAN WALKING!
The Best thing the Knicks can do is get rid of this past
reminder of last season's Hell!
   2008-06-24 @ 06:03:08 am
Comment from: statesman2 [ Visitor ]
Fanatics,

Big Ups to the new DJ. The Miles/Trane piece is COOKIN.

The Knicks should not draft a point guard. Rose is the only pure point and Augustine is a reach at 6. A Big or Wing is needed, especially if we can trade Crawful & Curry. I would rather see Robin Lopez, the rebounder/shot blocker in the middle. Two things that last year taught the Knicks, 1) You do not need 5-scorers on the floor at once 2) You need someone to defend the basket (block shots). You can pick up a guard in a trade or free-agency. Remember D'Antoni and the Suns signed Nash, and his system made Nash the player he is today.

Poetic Justice is bringing in a point guard, and have him split-time with Steph the first 10-games or so, and then make Steph his permanent backup for the ENTIRE season. He bailed on the last 2-coaches to get them fired (Brown & Thomas), he's not crazy. He should not be allowed to play and showcase for the next contract.

O & B,
You cannot quote or agree with Statesman. He is a generalist that will look for the exception at any moment. You do not want to go on record as agreeing or quoting Statesman. Regarding Randolph, maybe the scouts see a
great athlete but not a great basketball player. I do not think the school is the issue at LSU, but the former coaching staff.

Peaceman, if the Knicks draft a Euro will you then believe that Zeke does not have any say in organization. Remeber Zeke don't do Euro.

Peace & Blessings
   2008-06-24 @ 08:54:54 am
Comment from: jay bee [ Member ]
LOL @ Zeke don't do Euro.
   2008-06-24 @ 09:54:12 am
Comment from: orange and blue [ Member ]
The Grizz taking back Lee with a contract about to expire isn't as bad as people make it sound.

Lee is coveted in this league, and he is Chip in play for many a team thinking it can take the next step with a rugged rebounding 4 such as Lee in their mits. Also should the Grizz use Lee as a trade chip the team getting Lee (for a pick most likely) will know exactly what their getting.

Every year Lee has played in NY he focused on improving some aspect of his game. That work ethic and his disposition to be a strong rebounder with an improving mid range jumper will lure many a trade proposal which Memphis can use to dump another albatross contract down the road.

So I don't buy this whole lop sided for the Grizzlies take on the Memphis New York trade rumor.
   2008-06-24 @ 02:06:21 pm
Comment from: orange and blue [ Member ]
OBTW

Peaceman, Lives anyone...

Can you guys ask Hahn why I cannot get any of my post through on KnickFix?

You think the dudes trying to block me?
   2008-06-24 @ 02:07:26 pm
Comment from: d l t knicks [ Member ]
Well, don't think we should draft DJ Augustin,he's too small,we have Nate.I don't see the Knicks picking Anthony Randolph. We need a point guard. I think it will be Westbrook, if Seattle does not take him.If not,it should be Bayless.Majo will be gone by then.

I like the idea of trading for the #5 pick.Even if it means parting with Lee.We have to give something to get something.

There are also rumors that Minny is looking to trade the #3 pick.Which would be better.
   2008-06-24 @ 06:10:05 pm
Comment from: jay bee [ Member ]
More from Shaq and Kobe with Shaq now blaming Kobe for his divorce:

http://www.tmz.com/tmz_main_video?titleid=1626146951

Warning!! Coarse language!
   2008-06-24 @ 06:23:58 pm

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